Thornburg: Sigourney. Did she make 40Ks with those 800++ Yanmar ponies? My Cummins 6Bs are rated at 315/330HP, with a max cruise speed of 2,800 RPMs. Add new engines and you should be able to net your full repower investment cost, or very close to it, with little difficulty. All great advice but for your budget, I would strongly suggest selling your existing boat and buying a 31 Bertram that is already converted to diesel. by Tony Meola Dec 28th, '15, 22:19, Post 46 Bertram The intended use of my boat is sport fishing Southern California Islands and occasional dive trips. I check my lobster traps a couple of times per week. I'm running ZF220a 1.5:1's with 21X22 Mich Nibral DJX (#5 cup) on inch and 3/8's shafts. Stainless Steel Products by Tony Meola Sep 22nd, '08, 20:48, Post Many of the several thousand built are still in use today, around the globe, still catching more than their share. 48 Viking The owner of a vintage Bertram converts his power package to Volvo Penta IPS. Again for railing system, Aluminum at greater than 1 inch diameter? 35 Duffy 28 Main Boat These seemed to be more prevalent on west coast based Bertrams vs. east coast based Bertrams where many of them dont have bow railings at all. by scot Sep 23rd, '08, 22:57, Post Your comments make me feel more comfortable that if the boat is running well, that an imminent re-power may not be necessary at all..thanks again. 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The Bertram 31 launched Bertram Yacht, Inc. when it was introduced at the 1961 New York National Boat Show, essentially as a day boat for Florida sport fishermen. I have a friend with similar vintage Bertram 31 Express that is used 100% for offshore fishing and he loves it. The exspolsion blew everybody in the water. with 3208 cats and broke the 1 3/8 shaft. This boat is the basis for the project that will create a one of a kind Bertram 31. The 370 versus the 330 in a 31 Bertram may be overkill for power but it sure is nice to have the extra It is leisure and recreational fishing boat that holds up to 8 people. She boasts full electronic instrumentation at helm and on tower. In business for 50 years we have repowered 100s of Vessels and have 1000s of satisfied customers. My intention would be to use RTO's with gears and would either be Cummin B 250hp (or more) OR Yanmar 6LPA 315's. (unless I got my hands on a pair of yanmar 240's). MOBY DICK is a leisure boat Bertram 31 fly, made in 1962 and acquired in 2013 to be restored. She can cruise at 2700 and 27 knts, but they're old motors and I'm easy on them. by Tony Meola Jun 15th, '16, 20:49, Post by Dug Sep 23rd, '08, 08:06, Post Noelle Mae - 28 ft. Bertram and the Yanmar 4LHA 240 - One Sweet Combo. Is this boat still for sale? It is equipped with a Pompanette Fighting Chair with striking rod holders center mounted. If you have a good shop nearby (I like speed shops--those guys know motors), you can have your 454s rebuilt for cheap, and have motors that are still really easy to work on and reliable. The forms of resplash are as varied as the ports the 31s call home from adding outboards to slicing off half of the topsides; if you can think of it, likely it been done. quote from atlantic city yanmar /cat dealer " we don`t sell any they suck". scot you hit the nail on the head i just did not bother going over this shaft talk over and over.the bert 31 is being converted from a gasser ---guess what laddies all installations you have to remove the shaft anyway to cut lenth to fit diesel, whoever your machine shop will drop the bomb ! Post by scenarioL113 Mon Jun 28, . With regards to the 3.0's being underpowered, the boat came from bertram with 120 hp mercruisers and it appears they preformed quite well. You won't make a mistake with either engine, but you can make a mistake with an unknowledgeable installer who's dying to get the job. 34 Uniflight With the off-chance that either they fail earlier or I decide to move quicker, any thoughts on current model year replacement engines? by Carl Jun 14th, '16, 06:15, Post If Im in a hurry and the water is calm Ill cruise @ 2800-3000 rpm running 27-28 knots. by ed c. Sep 27th, '08, 21:53, Post InTheBite's print and electronic media is committed to providing timely news, useful and substantive content to professional captains, boat owners, crew and anglers. 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Bertram Odyssey, Marine Age the REAL age of a Marine Diesel Engine, Propellers Move Boats, Engines Just Turn Them, Everything you Need to Know About Marine Exhaust Systems, Continuous Duty A Different Perspective. by Hyena Love Sep 26th, '08, 10:37, Post This t. But a 32K cruise was easy, but always weather dependent. yanmar 8LV-350 is a good motor for it`s original use a toyota land cruiser and thats were it ends. The 370 is mated to a ZF63A gear 1.54:1 ratio which has an 8 degree down angle. http://baltimore.craigslist.org/bod/5492370026.html, http://bertram31.com/newbb/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=12271. Tremendous is our 1986 Bertram 38 Special. Adds a tremendous amount of strength, adds more useable fuel in the same amount of space, and when plumbed right, 99% of the your fuel you carry is useable. 36 Mainship The following model (rebranded as Carribean) of my boat came out with 300 6bta, then 315 6bta, then 330 6bta and now they come out of the factory with 355 QSB 6.7 and 5050A boxes. First off, great site - newcomer to this forum, but not Bertrams. According to Soundings, aficionados refer to it as "Bertram Art." Its Makos way of rewarding loyal customers for inviting their friends to become part of the Mako family. Very pleased with progress of the project! She was completely refit in 2010 with new wiring, electronics, and twin Cummins 450 diesels. Hope this helps Outriggers Re: Cummins repower. She cruises at 26 knots and runs 31 WOT. This allows us to develop a working relationship that doesnt end after the repower, we expect more questions and feedback and guarantee to continue our high level of customer support. Everything is in very good shape and well maintained. The 383 MAG also has a full roller valve train which reduces friction and saves on fuel. I am leaning toward Yanmar over the Cummins. Re: Bertram 31 / Yanmar 300 hp Repower From: ramille@banet.net Date: 4/5/99 Remote Name: 206.154.74.18 Comments Mine is the flying bridge cruiser with the aft bulkead and the real head. 37 Bertram A Classic 49-Year-Old Ribside Whaler is Given New Life. by Navatech May 17th, '16, 10:59, Post Reproduction in whole or in part without permission is prohibited. I am reaching out to the Seaboard Marine community for input as this project progresses as I value your practical feedback on various topics posted. Plastic Rub Rails Tony did some really nice things on that boat. Seaboard Marine delivers Guaranteed Better Than Factory Performance, Parts, Design, and Engineering for Cummins and other Marine Diesel applications. Pulpit It is leisure and recreational fishing boat that holds up to 8 people. The 31 Bertram began the deep v revolution, in many ways paving the way for offshore fishing to gain popularity. The hull is polar white gel coat. Dock Appeal: The boot stripe and house stripe blue were changed and painted in flag blue Awlgrip. Participant Vessel Name: Patriot Engines: QSB 5.9 Location: Oxnard Country: United States I purchased a Bertram 31 FBC mid last year following multiple years of looking at various fishing boats. This boat needs nothing but updating. The worst was 12 people in a day cruiser with 2 fatalities. Just always been uneasy about wireless on things such as this or are you referring to a wired remote? They're supposed to be relatively fuel efficient, and there's a guy somewhere around here that I've heard put the 6.2s in his B31 and really likes them. Time to continue our love affair for old boats. Low hours and ready to go. 36 Webber Cove Hi all, I'm tossing the idea around of repowering my 1970 31 Bertram Bahia Mar. by ranjr13 Dec 28th, '15, 11:34, Post 212 hours already and counting. Shoreline Panels If youre still working then that makes good sense (or cents)- go make a buck doing what you do best and let the pros do their thing this way all moves fwd as it should. Interestingly enough, the new John Deere equipment I run on land all have Yanmar engines and have never had one issue, and know several with Yanmars in marine application and all very happy. Navatech - whoa horsey, that's a ton of great info. If you have any notable resplashes that youd like to see in the magazine, send us a note and some pictures: [emailprotected] ITB. 25 Buddy Davis. Started less than 1 minute ago This video shows a. She currently has Perkins T6.354's rated at 185hp @ 2800 rpm. All MerCruiser Remanufactured engines come with a 1-year factory backed limited warranty. I am based in Reno, NV but grew up in Southern California and look forward to getting back on the water fishing. It is a free fall setup which I personally dont like. I have the Yanmar 240's. I use the 750 which requires a power down as will as power up. Also, I always found the foot operated windlass switch on the bow a pain. I have a 28 with Mercruiser 350 mpi (fuel injection) 2003 and I personally rebuild it. Repower Bertram 46.6. If you're putting 300 hp engines of any brand, you should up your shaft size, especially on a higher rpm Yanmar. One feature I do want to include, a bow pulpit with toe railing. 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We are excited to work with you, boats are our passion and we take pride in what we do. One stripe equals 30 feet, 2 stripes equals 60 feet etc. These sterndrives are fitted with new Mercruiser Alpha 4 aluminium 4 blade propellers. For all the nervous Nellies out there after 46 years of being around boats, traveling on them, living on them, working on them the over whelming majority of fires I came across were on diesel boats. The 3.0 mercruisers are 135hp at the prop I believe. A few questions: by capy Sep 24th, '08, 08:42, Post I was able to stop and visit the Seaboard crew on a recent visit to Oxnard at the end of July and got these pictures of my boat. Bill by litecatch Jun 16th, '16, 08:18, Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 1 guest, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. Unbelievable original condition. Niels, Tony, In business for 50 years we have repowered 100's of Vessels and have 1000's of satisfied customers. It is in fair condition with a sound hull making it my ideal choice for a project boat. Weve been serving local Ventura County, California since 1980 as a custom boat builder, repower specialist, designer, and supplier of equipment to builders, commercial fishermen, and recreational users. 37 Tiara I will get the skinny on service records, oil sampling etc. but now have lowered my speed because of the price of fuel as many others have done. While they have been out of production for many years, used models are continually in demand regardless of age or condition. Works really well. Might need to get your glasses. I'll never ruin a $50 buzz with a $4 sandwich, bill what do you mean a little more money?the differance beween the two is 10,000 dollars .don`t you think that money would be better spent inproving effiency.capt. Bait Wells And the option of standard and opposite rotation versions means theres no need to install a new transmission for twin engine applications. by bob lico Sep 24th, '08, 07:40, Post by John F. May 17th, '16, 09:00, Post Door Parts It is likely we have already repowered your exact vessel, see the list below. She has controls top and bottom electronic, tachs digital. Bill. Thanks for the comment on the 330B as that describes what type of engine I am looking for. All that said, Priceless is greater than the sum of her parts. by Bruce May 17th, '16, 20:30, Post 1969 31 Bertram FBC "East Wind" hull #315939, i would go with the mercruiser 383s 370HP carbureted and more torque than the 454 and less weight than the 454 a boat that I work on (not a Bertram)a searay he took out a big block and did a 383 and he loves it he gained fuel mileage less weight and he absolutely loves the engine and the boat performs better than it did. Works really nice. I used to own a 35 bert. 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