Ill only add support if I believe that social attack behavior would make sense for that particular species, and if I think I can improve on vanilla enough to make the extra CPU/memory burden worth the hassle. The effect dispels when the NPC is out of range or has died. These natural levels also change throughout the combat session, so there will be emerging heroes and cowards among the group. Q: What about the Forged and the Rust Devils (and other smaller factions)? Q: Do you play anything else other than Fallout? 5. ApprehensiveDegree70 2 yr. ago. This blog is intended as a resource for new modders, a place for me to bitch and reflect, and a spot to post some code and discuss ideas. Probably. Its basically there for the bugged NPCs you cant/wont destroy, live with, or that are currently unsupported by PA-NPC. Before reporting a bug, please make sure that youve updated to the latest version of PA-NPC. . Some of these are questions Ive already been asked. They will attempt to gain range advantage (I can hit you better than you can hit me) and generally be intimidated/encouraged if you or they have a sufficiently more valuable weapon. Pretty self explanitory, lead starts flying both ways, then suddenly I'm looking at my desktop. This can happen, and will sometimes set off a friendly faction. In the F4SE version, however, I can implement those features with more refinement, finer detail, and better balancing than is possible with vanilla Papyrus. Try LOOT to sort your load order and have a look at ENBoost to see if the game crashes less when allocating some system memory to the game because with FallOut 4 a lot of issues come from not having enough RAM since the game used to gobble-up up to 10GB, which had, well, RAMifications. 11. . Thank you. When they die, their molotovs are replaced. 1971 and 1972 Olds Cutlass 442 Bolt on or pin on Fiberglass Hood.00. Buy cheap games: https://www.g2a.com/r/hodiii Use code "HODI" for some cashbackSupport the channel on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/hodi?ty=hRetextures/Vi. Guide/Mod Compatibility. Because in my tests, thats the only Ive found to stop raiders from wanting to burn down their own base every time a stranger drops by: just take away their damned flame bombs. Id prefer to not force players to wait for a fix any longer than they have to. Q: What is the Command/Focus Fire ability? It doesnt change any base records. Sometimes that involves a throwdown. (The Confidence Man bar fight, for example. Eventually I always make it back to Fallout. However, Im usually pretty good at finding and resolving them, so this shouldnt be an issue in most versions. The Development Process I'm fairly certain I've litterally read every single FO4 CTD article on the internet. When a PA-enabled NPC dies, the script shuts down for that NPC, unregistering for all its events. Also, see question above, about unexplained hostile NPCs. I add and remove messages all the time, so you will see different messages in each version. Q: Why are all these raiders rushing at me instead of shooting at me? 1. animals and such) PANPCs (and Tacticals, if set in MCM) are PA-enabled as soon as they are loaded into the players cell. PACE AIs will employ adapt. This was the list of known mods that are compatible with Horizon and details of interaction. For example, if a mod creates a new Brahmin NPC but uses a custom race and/or custom factions, the PA-NPC registrar has no way of accurately identifying it. Not really. Workshop Limited, variably registered around the world, and used under licence. Q: How exactly do PA-enabled NPCs assess each other and enemy NPCs? Unique DLs-- Total DLs . If you do not follow the author's recommendations about compatibility and load order, you won't be able to have kind of stable game. Maybe we can hash out something really great. 6. Q: I have a question that you havent answered in this FAQ. I do have the donation flags set on the mod page, because why not. Theyre more concerned with the other teams armaments and head counts, plus many other factors. Unfortunately, Creation Kit has a habit of making these cute little unnecessary edits without consulting the author, which then get saved and shipped without being noticed. As of v1.63, NPCs suffer temporary damages to their Aim Stability (gun wobble) and Weapon Attack Speed (how often they can shoot) for ranged attacks, depending on combat circumstances. Since mod authors face CTD reports from users frequently i decided to place some notes about possible reasons and fixes for game CTDs. Q: A third-party compatibility patch is crashing my game. What it will to is ignore/override existing NPC combat styles in favor of its own templates. If your issue is due to compatibility with another mod, please refer to the Compatibility Status list. To learn more about chaos theory, I strongly recommend the book Chaos: The Making Of A New Science by James Gleick. Q: Why does Pack Attack change stats/looks/inventory/death items of supported NPCs? Q: What is the Medic ability? As a result, normally Aggressive NPCs Settlers, DCS, BoS, Minutemen, etc. Otherwise, Medic PANPCs will use stimpaks from their inventory/drop/death items. Get some distance and theyll resume their gunfire if they can. This seems to eliminate nearly all molotov throwing indoors. How about Skyrim/FO3/FNV? Runtime script conflicts are still possible, however. Im a nice guy who wants your feedback. 3. And even then, most times it holds up just fine, and only once (much earlier version) have I found a stack dump generate a CTD the other times, I didnt even realize it dumped until I checked the log after a test session. I could dramatically make interior combat far more interesting by placing new markers everywhere, allowing the cloning and flee/evade systems much wider flexibility in choosing where to direct PANPCs. Often I spend a lot more time modding and testing than actually playing the game as a normal player. Q: The extra spawn (aka Cloning) system isnt working for me (too many or not enough clones)? PA-NPC doesnt change any game globals, so youre safe there. Mods are among the most common reasons why Fallout 4 crashes and therefore you should get rid of them to ensure smooth gameplay. Is that something to worry about? Sometimes that means they take out their friends as well. In this function, the mod coordinates NPCs to cross paths with the player in organic ways, adding extra spawns and combat opportunities. In some situations where the PANPCs confidence has just absolutely shattered, they may fire off a fear effect that results in a panicked run and a cower. I am currently developing both Pack Attack mods on the most recent version of Fallout 4 (1.10.75, as of this writing). Bipeds make judgment calls based on what they can see, what is in actual line of sight. It doesnt really care, for the most part. Hit apply and close Nvidia control panel. This only affects newly spawned NPCs that have spawned into interiors. As of v1.4, the only times Ive ever seen the stack crash is when Im intentionally spawning lots of hostile NPCs and trying to crash it. Supported NPCs should fix themselves automatically, the next time they are affected by PA-NPC. Q: So what exactly is the deal with the Brotherhood of Steel? Cookie Notice Q: What if PA-NPC cant identify an NPCs faction (such as in other mods)? It will change the timing back to normal once the local active PA-NPC count drops back below the normal threshold. Privacy Policy. Its last act before disconnecting for good is to attach an avenge me keyword to itself for a brief period, and then removing it. For now, its the price were paying for the additional processing logic overhead. Nearby teammates who witness (i.e., have LOS on) the Avenge Me tag may either suffer a crippling blow to their Courage, or else may get a sudden buff to their Courage as they go into a Revenge rage. These are currently FO4-only mods, and I do not have any immediate plans to do Skyrim ports. Q: If I am using PA-NPC, can I uninstall the original Pack Attack mod? This video explains the installation and setup process f. Set Antialiasing - FXAA to "On". My time isnt overly ample, so much as it is abnormally flexible. Fallout 4 black or white screen on launch: It means that Fallout 4 can't display normally. Q: Why am I reading this crap about you personally? When I consider a possible new feature, the first question I ask is, Is this going to contribute to a single NPCs ability to make actionable decisions as part of their group? If not, then at best its out of scope. I recommend using PA-NPC with mods that reduce area respawn times, toughen up enemy NPCs, and the like. As of the 1.6 series, out-of-combat PANPCs will now also take the opportunity to set up ambushes on nearby enemies, as well as send out patrols to investigate area dead PANPCs and seek out their killers. Today I show you guys how. Not all of them, however, are PA-enabled: most of the rank and file troops, as well as the Legendaries and the general encounter BoS, should be good to go. Depravity.esp. PA-NPC now includes all of the functionality of the original Pack Attack, plus much else besides. If they are ranged and on the offensive (usually fighting in the open), their speed goes up and their aim stability goes down. Alas, no sympathy from the good mod author here. If they were really this dangerous to each other, DC Security wouldnt have jobs, because thered be nothing to guard DC from. Why? Q: Did that Synth seriously punch me in the face (or go run and hide)? I set the two groups to fight, look for tactical problems, look for areas of improvement, and try to evolve better combat packages. I havent found in-game performance problems. You shouldnt encounter any problems. All this data is collected and processed into a general bravery rating, which is then used to decide between aggressive, conservative, melee and ranged combat tactics. 5. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Other AI overhauls all basically do the same things: adjust the global game settings and update the combat style definitions. I've never had a laptop so they never called my attention and I heard too many times people saying that laptops are not the best device to play a game, especially, when the game has been heavily modded. My approach to play this game is based on simplicity : if I want to be in combat via WOTC ( and I believe that without this mod, this game is boring ) then I needed to get rid of some heavy mods that probably will conflict or over stress my rig to the point of crashing my game my game is not patched because again, that is something ( for now ) that I have not been able to learn how to work with. About Pack Attack: NPC Addition (PA-NPC) Sometimes you can fix the issue simply by changing the MCM settings. The registrar now attempts to match against two markers instead of one, before clearing the NPC for registration. Using a combination of faction and race identification markers. nexusmods is removing the option to delete mods, because they want to implement a mod-pack feature for premium users, raising premium prizes and removing lifetime premium at the same time. But I cant guarantee 100% compatibility with everything. I post a changelog with each update, which I encourage you to review. And possibly to have some extra fun doing it. As of v1.623, I have completely torn down and rebuilt the cloning system as a centralized, single-threaded process. Keep in mind that there are ways for this to legitimately happen. 2. At this point, your odds of save game corruption/bloat should be very, very small. Only in the F4SE version. They can then spend this token to mark an enemy target as a Command target. Select Fallout 4 in the dropdown list of applications. This tool will be removed in a future version of PA-NPC once Im satisfied that it is no longer necessary. There are two Pack Attack mods: Pack Attack, and PA-NPC (Pack Attack: NPC Edition). Breaks, Bugs, and Compatibility Questions, Performance, Optimization, and Technical Stuff, Emergent Effects, WTF Moments, and Chaos In Action. PA-NPC doesnt change globals, and rather than alter existing combat styles, it substitutes its own. Q: And how exactly did a raider (or other NPC) get up there? Especially to me. Blessed Terradon Riders (Fireleech Bolas), Ancient Stegadon (Engine of the Gods) (mount), The Umbral Tide (Salamander Hunting Pack). Unintuitive feature! Some will start with a natural advantage there, more likely to stay true against impossible odds. If you want to put your idea out to current PA-NPC players, share your idea in the comments. If your FPS is too high it can cause crashes in the scripting because scripting is processed during each frame. Efforts ongoing. So to avoid clogging the comments section with possibly long, drawn out technical answers (which Im prone to giving), Im going to try my best to answer those questions here. When they go melee, if they dont have a melee weapon (or they just dont want to use it), they resort to hand-to-hand combat. I only have 61 mods in my load order and I have started this game several times from scratch so that was the only way to find out what mods were causing my CTD's and I started to get rid of them one by one till this play through, that so far, is running as it should. If you would like to help with this project, please PM me and well talk. Q: Why do you have all this time on your hands? Q: Why is this raider duck-and-covering instead of just running away? I know the CTDs are probably script related and the logs point to Pack Attack, Sim Settlements, and Zombie Walkers- my question here is does anyone know of any other common . And, if you choose to start writing mods yourself, pay it forward and think about the new guys who will one day be trying to learn from your work. Other factions are assigned one of the preexisting templates. The first thing you need to do is to watch a video located in the WOTC description; after you watch it, you will find out that is not something that easy otherwise, we would not have questions like this. Older versions were updated for reasons, and your bug may have already been fixed. Thats how Godzilla focus-fire support happened. Hopefully not. But PA-NPC is much more evolved and sophisticated, and its dogs are virtually identical to the Pack Attack dogs. Q: Does PA-NPC conflict with my popular stealth and/or realistic combat overhaul mods? Q: How does Pack Attack prevent molotov cocktail use indoors? Nothing is required other than the base Fallout 4 game. The other assigned race are Ghouls, which (IIRC) I set to the Gunner template, on the logic that theyve been around the track for a while and have become fairly good at handling themselves. Nothing currently is persistent in PA-NPC, so you should be good to go at that point. Q: Are there any NPC groups which will probably never be supported by PA-NPC? It will either not support the NPC (if it remains unidentified), or misidentify it, with unpredictable consequences. PA-NPC raiders dynamically shift between ranged (guns) and melee (knifes/bare hands) attacks, depending on their appraisal of the situation. And for that matter, Bethesda games, too. For more information, please see our They will also provide fire support to that teammate. Fallout 4 ; Mods ; NPC ; PANPC - Pack Attack NPC Edition (RU) 2.0; PANPC - Pack Attack NPC Edition (RU) 2.0. Q: Are you related to another Greslin Ive seen elsewhere on the Web? The two types of assessment are very different. So generally speaking, Id avoid merging it, even though it may work. If anyone can, then with some ingenuity, everyone can. Q: Is there any way to do a factory reset of PA-NPC? 4. Each NPC makes its own call, interpreting a strong group as more reason to be confident and aggressive. Their enemies would all be dead, and most of them would be, as well. See question above, about unexplained hostile NPCs. Otherwise, dont worry about Debug Mode. Yes. Most hostile canines are. If a teammate is near enough to respond and isnt otherwise focused on what theyre currently doing, that teammate (only one) will respond to the call and move to the comrade in need. Once again, if so, let me know and I can either fix it or code around it. But right now I consider companion support to be out of scope. Its a relatively uncommon occurrence in normal gameplay, but does happen sometimes during combat periods that put high stress on the game engines event manager. This is my current load order as it stands now. I only care about the mod. Fallout4.esm DLCRobot.esm DLCworkshop01.esm DLCCoast.esm . The more NPCs you have on the field, the more likely the dump will happen. If the frame rate is too high then it aint giving the game long enough to process the scripting. This feature in general makes PANPCs cohere more as groups. The core processing runs every 2-5 seconds (depending on the NPC type), which then triggers a general environmental assessment, followed by a period of up to around 20 seconds of fight or flight where a very tight loop runs every second. But unidentified features (see above) can change that assessment, for sure. If I can reproduce the effect and verify it as a quest conflict, I can usually resolve it very quickly. Q: How does PA-NPC differ from other AI overhaul mods? This will usually happen at the end of another evasion move, once the PANPC has collected themselves a bit and is ready to reenter the battle. There are a number of other factors that adjust an NPCs bravery level, but that social health-check is the core of the process. Its an idea best left to a separate mod. The Guide/Mod Compatibility is written and maintained by the players. Q: Does PA-NPC have any required dependencies? I am no longer maintaining or supporting it. Id rather save those rabbit holes for other projects. As with certain other animals, (e.g . Terminology note: PA-enabled means an NPC that is operating using Pack Attack logic. A 50HP NPC will see a 150HP friend as a major boost to the team, while the stronger one will regard the weaker one as a liability. Page 1 of 2 - CTD when engaging in combat. Pack Attack was the original prototype of this system, a very limited version that applied strictly to Commonwealth wild dogs. 2. Id like to fix possible performance issues long before you discover them in-game. Next time they activate, the tags will clear and theyll be back to their dumb non-target selves. The problems are the unsupported NPCs that were enabled by mistake due to (now-fixed) bugs in the registrar, and that otherwise would normally be friendly NPCs. Q: Will PA-NPC eventually support companions? The 2020 can usually be relied on to dump stack at some point, but as of v1.432, the 1010 rarely dumps stack. If they are panicking and in retreat, both factors take deep hits. BTW, Scrap Everything is a mod that must be placed at the bottom of the load order. If you are having this problem, please rule out these scenarios before reporting it as a new bug: 1. This mod mainly alters what they do at that point. The one exception to that is power armor. Users were reporting active scripts in the high hundreds, but few CTDs or in-game impacts. (updated 3/23/18, v1.64). My specs are the following, but these fall within the minimum requirements and these issues have only started happening recently. Ill give you an example from the v1.5 series. Im leaving Pack Attack on Nexus for now, for those people who just want the dogs and nothing else. I do this mainly to avoid runtime collisions with heavily scripted companions such as Heather Casdin, and with multiple companion mods. Youd likely have to be trying to crash it to make it dump. Either a patch, or more likely, an update to PA-NPC that reduces that area of conflict risk. But I need to be able to verify it firsthand. Mainly I dig really complicated games with fairly esoteric strategic mechanics. In theory, theres no fundamental reason why companions wouldnt work. It is recommended to read this and the Troubleshooting article. About Specific Factions There are several types of evasion. Also some settlement modifying mods can cause frequent CTDs. They then get a DR boost and another big Courage buff, and go to town in an adrenaline-fueled murder rage. 00. . Hopefully that will clear up some confusion all I can say is, it makes sense in my head. 268. DC Security (and both other friendly guard factions) fight as Minutemen, as do the Triggermen. Forged and Rust Devils, for instance, use the Raiders template. Most combat overhauls range, accuracy, etc. I have spend many hours trying to find out which mod is giving problems, i have ran the corvega plant in vanilla 4 times without any problems and have not found the mod that breaks something there. This can include locations that were not intended to be accessible to that particular NPC, such as perhaps some of the elevated positions in mods like [url=https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/29735]Diamond City Enhanced Security[/url]. I fall into a game for a few months, play it almost exclusively, eventually get bored and go to the next game in the rotation. The script itself is single-threaded (i.e., it doesnt use tricky techniques such as CallFunctionNoWait() shenanigans to create multithreaded processing internally), and it only operates on active NPC references that are loaded in the current cell. ; Close Discord, MSI Afterburner, and Other . Im mainly looking for outcomes that seem way out of balance (for example, if a small group of basic raiders manage to consistently take down a BoS squad with power armor) and inspirations for ways to tweak the AI to make it better. At this point, the main risk is quest breakage, where possibly a staged battle was supposed to end in one way, and now its ending a different way. Im a particular fan of the Zachtronics games. However, I cant with 100% certainty promise that it cant or wont happen. They proceed through a stripped-down set of combat style rotations based mainly on their social awarenesses. Is operating using Pack Attack: NPC Addition ( PA-NPC ) sometimes you can fix the simply. 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