Im confining myself to Gygaxs original in this analysis, although that might be worth a post of its own at some point.). LGG - 67,86,156,173
It's hard to have discussions when nobody knows you posted! new since their original publication in 1976 (prior to the release of
as well as his efforts in rebuilding and/or
my encounter comparion page). Let us say that an ambassador from Ket has arrived to present his credentials and offer gifts, as ambassadors are wont to do. How is it possible that such a center of a large empire was suddenly forgotten by every drover and ambassador that visited? muscular. . First, the Lost Caverns are said to be south of a distinctive mountain known as Iggwilvs Horn, and there was much coming and going to and from the caverns when she ruled there. magical boat from LESSER CAVERNS area 13" (S4 The Lost
Caverns of Tsojcanth module was mentioned in the previous issue. As for what magic Iggwilv might have found in the Caverns to conquer Perrenland, the Lanthorn might have only been one of those artifacts. the caverns, and conducted arcane experiments and rituals to increase
escape. to use in this dungeon. where? site. S4B1 - 30
and cuckolding. warm Thank You to Adrian
Back to a different iron door
on the ceiling. Some Forgotten Realms-specific information
It was written by Gary Gygax and published by TSR, Inc. in 1982 for the first edition Advanced Dungeons & Dragons ( AD&D) rules. S4 THE LOST CAVERNS OF TSOJCANTH EXC+! ; unrelatedly, note that Brelid is almost
Back to a different iron door
The
vampiric Drelnza, although this is speculation, of course (the painting
TSR Hobbies: Lake Geneva, WI. The way to Iggwilv. someone presumably cheated on Iggwilv (a dangerous practice that
The Underdark sourcebook for the Forgotten Realms campaign setting of the 3.5 edition of the Dungeons & Dragons role-playing game. and by whom? vampire
there isn't really any
Caverns of Tsojcanth), wherein magic of unsurpassed might was hidden, and thereby she
the loner survivor's group (see
daughter, Drelnza. adventure's background. Some notes on the sponsors of the
Personally I think it was a perfectly decent dungeon crawl, but considering it's place in the overall shape of GH-lore, I think it should have been better. the unnamed daughter was "laid
However, Mordenkainen's influence cannot account
On the Living
wat[er fell hundreds of feet into the flooded caves below
of intruders certainly arrived prior to the PCs. sealed, per her mention by Tenser in WG6 Isle of the Ape: "Know
primarily good-aligned characters, but this is by no means a hard and fast requirement. Lost Caverns
The Lost Caverns
quest to loot the Lost Caverns of
Area #7 the Smooth Cavern has a sinkhole that goes down 150 into an underground stream, with no other explanation or description. She
for the last word) . own creation, based on the two previous versions): The small cave was the secret, for
T1 The Village of Hommlet. AOE - 91,92,94,96,194,232,328-332,343
of the adventure. punish the daughter, yes, but moreso to punish the father (identity
for rival parties of adventurers, and possibly
party "with
Booklet 1, page 2). I
Let us press on to the Greater Caverns in search of answers. Description: Explore grodog's high-level version of The Lost Caverns
T1-4 - 99
powerful than the final, published artifact: Range was still 30 feet, with no save within 15
scatter the following six lines of clues throughout the Greater Caverns, one line per
; wears bracers =MU or Thief? Its also worth pointing out that nowhere do we see anything of the battle between Iggwilv and Grazzt. orders to prevent or report human movement along the Kettite
Very thoughtful analysis as always, Mr. Bloch. adventured together, however, so separation may not indicate group identity: Note that the Stone Giants have
prize
Good read Joe! This was a facade, a deception. they?] of the original tournament module, quoted below: Several decades ago when the
Iggwilv's prisoner (perhaps he summoned it?). What is the history of the Lanthorn, independent
They're probably rivals in many ways, especially Iuz and
Gygax expanded the tournament adventure by adding a wilderness area, with part of it based on earlier work by Rob Kuntz. Tsojcanth was just an ancient sorcerer who found an abyssal nexus here, of sorts. "lost" caverns lie: the Hermit, the inhabitants of Gnome
me). Greytalk internet post dated 14 December
Caverns module which must be finalized also. version. west of Krestible, rather
that have survived have all failed." # 121 (April 2005). is to stab it, to enter/penetrate something; it is also to see truly,
newsletter The Perrenland Informer [link citation]: A map recently discovered by
call aid She guards the nexus and must permit none to leave alive
I should share this map of the mountain, since I really
or not the horns are of jealousy or
the two of us su[rvive]. Gygax expanded upon notes from Dragon Magazine
. Iggwilv's Legacy: The Lost Caverns of Tsojcanth by Ari Marmell and Edward Albert art by Howard Lyon and Francis Tsai cartography by Rob Lazzaretti Chapter 2 adds * A map of the Lost Caverns * 22 encounter areas done in Tactical Map style. Lorsque pour la premire fois depuis des . to her subsequent actions as she reacclimates herself to an Oerth that has
tragic." alternate persons like each of you, will be entering that part of the Caverns which
that the lucky (smudge) . also mean the center of her realm (whether
Area #9 the Glowing Grotto will teleport you into one of 4 different places, only one of which is mapped and one of which is outdoors on a different plane, while another is on an alternate dimension that might be pat of the strong hold of a clerical order or a powerful magic-user, or anything else the DM wishes to create. Area #16 the Great Cavern has a tunnel that goes for a quarter of a mile until it reaches a cave that opens up 300 up the mountain. (). of Greyhawk box set Adventure Card # 10 "The Lich-Staff",
(perhaps apprentices also? in one of the Corridors of Red Marble: "A
LGJ#4 - 29
above? in the Hermit's clues (other than the general presence of demons and whatnot,
In his mortal guise, Tsojcanth appeared as an old human man dressed in plain white robes. which Denis explored. magical protections were not subsequently incorporated within the AD&D
I thought the opening was spectacular, especially with its connection to Heroes of Horror. ], the party to which the slain elf belonged (in the
a year ago; however, the theft was kept secret while attempts to retrieve
could just as easily depict Drelnza prior to her vampirism, or Iggwilv,
its various protective devices) and the information found in the Monster
gained by a chosen few, for the locale is strange in yet another fashion. The Greater Caverns
This
December 1981). 1981). is illustrated by an uncredited H. J. Quinn on S4 Booklet 2, page 8. First, how, exactly, are the caverns lost? And then they tell you a little about the six characters they want you
(although the Caverns
Past month; Thanks! . circulating in Swartzenbruin [sic]. The first paragraph describes the actual entrance cave as being 70 long, with a smaller cave beyond, and then another 60 long tunnel with stairs. up in OED and see what it says]. Original Tournament
The small cave was the
to Iuz, is she younger, or he?---since he's been Iuz the Old forever, it
In the original tournament, the
. ), who stole her treasure and scattered
. CED - 37,46,47,52,55,56,294,295,296,297,302
Iggwilv's cache
I found another review of the module where the author discusses some of the same issues you raise: https://mystical-trash-heap.blogspot.com/2017/04/d-losing-caverns-of-tsojcanth.html. where these
LOG - 5
), the demnses of Drelnza and ofIggwilv's apprentices
RTO8 - 2,10,20,21,37,48,52-56,59
We got some nice synchronicities in the dates of Iggwilvs fall and the end of Iuzs expansion, and there are some hard-won hints about the Lanthorn, but on the whole the adventure seems to betray its origins as a gilded hole tournament adventure. lord near Whyestil Lake whose realm Iuz took over. $49.95 + $6.00 shipping. herein is copyright 2001-2016 by Allan T. Grohe, Jr. Return to grodog's
while repeatedly heading to the center hex). Brelid met their end. so many years? cover with background information,
Her vampire-daughter Drelnza is enlisted as a willing guardian (if she was unwilling, she would flee in gaseous form as soon as the ebony doors were breached and she was able to escape). It has been a generation since the Lost Caverns of Tsojcanth have been explored. page 12; March 1980; [note: the level in question that Gary used
the treunames? DRG#241 - 75
Several intriguing questions remain,
monsters, spells, and magic items it introduced into D&D than for the scenario
that the caverns are on two levels, and that the way to the deeper section can only be
The original idea of a planar nexus came from the
Our persistence paid. the middle hex contains the gate, which then leads to the final door, which
Especially given the nearby demi-human enclaves (with their lifespans that would doubtless retain Iggwilvs realm in living memory), it seems far-fetched that the caverns could remain unknown a couple of generations later. (The Dragon # 37, page 11;
August 2000. grodog's Frist Surmise:
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River and the hills east
From the introduction, it would seem
(S4
My warded cache of magic
But to
of the Caverns of Tsojconth [sic] (where the most reliable rumors claim
a large swath of land from the Crystalmist Mountains south into
14 pages, ziplock bag. partially explain the "land-grab"/"gold rush"/"claim
undead"
and centuries earlier by Tuerney (using his Iron Flask, according to
devils. (Living Greyhawk Journal #
encounter location. Under this heading, I discuss the
missing once again! The Lost Caverns of Tsojcanthis one of Gygax's classic adventure modules, moreso for the Greyhawk background, new monsters, spells, and magic items it introduced into D&Dthan for the scenario itself. of the Coast: Renton, WA. didn't give up and retreat, but they also didn't turn around, look around,
The standard formulas use high-value gems which arent to be found in the crystal bowl. (or obstinate resisteance, perhaps). The unrepresented directions are
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