We did a few demos earlier on in the year. It was the most incredible setting: a church with the largest church organ in France. Lias Saoudi: Well, Saul got stranded in SpainWe were all supposed to meet in Algeria, and work on an album there, around where my family live, and collaborate musically with other people from that region. I just thought it was amazing. I think doing this was really helpful and cathartic, says Saoudi. Nevertheless, Lias styled it out. Photo courtesy of Lias Saoudi. Dance music can be quite conservative, Liam continues. In recent years Ive noticed this awful feeling creeping over me every time I pick up my phone to select a track if theres folks round my flat. Blur were his go-to. Get Lias Saoudi setlists - view them, share them, discuss them with other Lias Saoudi fans for free on setlist.fm! People talk about a blue pill and a red pill, he says. Fat White Family's next single, "Breaking Into Aldi", was released on 16 August 2016. But this was just spellbinding, it was such a dense experience. He is published inTheNew Frontier: Reflections From the Irish Border(New Island Books, 2021) an anthology of new writing from some of Irelands greatest contemporary authors marking the centenary of partition. To the four winds was scattered my collection. The approval of gay and POC DJs like Mike Servito and Carlos Souffront were particularly validating. Along with author Adelle Stripe, Saoudi wrote, Ten Thousand Apologies: Fat White Family and the Miracle of Failure. Once you snag him, though, it's tough to get the Fat White . [8][9] Lias Saoudi described the album as an attempt to really to get at the shittiness lurking in the core of my own soul, and in everybody else's.[10] It was promoted with a single for "Whitest Boy on the Beach",[11] which was later chosen for the closing credits of the 2017 film T2 Trainspotting. Theres every kind of sentiment to be explored. PKM: That makes sense. Gift them a month or a full year. It was cathartic to come out of the Fat Whites, this horribly pressurised environment, and just do a day down at Trashmouth as a way to let off steam, says Lias. You cant really have a bunch of tunes on while youre busy concocting alternative truths and softcore character assassinations. Why am I standing in front of a stage looking at some questionable hero? CORRECT. Limits to Medicine by Ivan Illich https://joannamoncrieff.com/2016/04/18/limits-to-medicine-re-visiting-ivan-illich/, 3. The NYC Downlow is outrageous, anyone would kill to play there, and this is when Decius was a reall small thing that not many people knew about, he continues. Each page reveals fresh depravities and triumphs. 22/09/2020. So yes, one day I genuinely had to stop myself driving up to London and finding him [Lias Saoudi, Fat White Family frontman] because I go through fits and pangs of, like: 'Fuck off, just leave us . The easiest way to gain popularity online of course, is simply to regurgitate what everybody else already believes. I gave up on collecting records around 13 years ago. Sign up with your email address to get news and updates from the Social and The Social Gathering . It was only ever really going go one way to a certain extent, which was complete anti-authoritarianism. It was like Elvis, everyone could agree on that up to a point and then suddenly we could no longer agree on Michael. For all four of the musicians, it was something they deeply needed. I took to rendering my own image in charcoal, gouache and oil paint posturing like Egon Schiele whom I severely admired. You get a little place in the country, and a really big garden, and a lot of dogs, and you can do pretty well. Her mother would bring us 6 bottles of Miller beer and order us a pizza on a Friday night. Then, one evening lying on her bed alone while she was in the bathroom next door getting ready to go out, Last Thoughts on Woody Guthrie came over the stereo, which is basically just a poem about the nature of integrity inspired by Guthries Bound For Glory. Im not particularly good at that. Theyre all very fragmented, but as it proceeds it starts to descend into darker, more autobiographical sketches. I want to thank Jane Ferguson & her team at theObserverfor giving me this opportunity & putting everything together so it all makes sense. I associate that accent with my mum, so theres an inherent innocence to all the characters that makes it absolutely visceral. I dont really belong anywhere, you know? Nobody was the focal point, everybody was the frontperson. Follow us. PKM: You cant learn that dynamic online. I feel less jaded, maybe, than some of my peers. Lias Saoudi, the band's frontman, has a reputation for shedding clothing at shows and spent most of the Bowery set fully exposed. I remember the single came on and that was the first time I was like I have to go get that., My big brother was obsessed with Britpop so by extension I was also obsessed with Britpop. If you dont like something, dont do it then.. Fat White Family @ Bowery Ballroom 10/18/2014 (photo via @alexandra_rossi). document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); https://media.zencast.fm/better-known/219.mp3, Ten Thousand Apologies: Fat White Family and the Miracle of Failure, https://literaryreview.co.uk/its-me-eddie, https://joannamoncrieff.com/2016/04/18/limits-to-medicine-re-visiting-ivan-illich/, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbeJKaAKLos, https://www.theguardian.com/books/2008/aug/05/biography, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Feast_of_Snakes, https://trouserpress.com/reviews/armand-schaubroeck-steals/. Maybe thats a conventional opinion. [18] It is nominated for the 2023 Penderyn Music Book Prize. If you love what we do, you can help tQ to continue bringing you the best in cultural criticism and new music by joining one of our subscription tiers. But I had to come back after five days because everything just went mad on the lockdown. Along with author Adelle Stripe, Saoudi wrote Ten Thousand Apologies: Fat White Family and the Miracle of Failure, a biography of the band published earlier this year by Orion. Fat White Family vocalist Lias Saoudi has shared a new essay clarifying his view on IDLES after Joe Talbot spoke about their beef in a recent interview. We (Fat White Family) were planning on starting tracking stuff this month. Its constantly shifting. Lias Saoudi: Most of them are in panic mode. Author Olivia Laing met me at the London Library & helped me collect my thoughts on this & a number of other subjects. Photo by Alex White. Hes not proud of it but at the same time, you know, it was an incredibly bleak period for him. Its the I belong bit, there can be no half-measures. Alas, I had by the age of 16 become a total loner, with nothing but a deeply entrenched sense of myself as culturally superior to keep me company. All the different places you come from, how has that affected the music you write as a band? This is the definitive account of Fat White Family's disgraceful and . Id been bullied and battered a bunch of times growing up but no beating contained such archaic mystification as that one. Rage. It seems undignified somehow. The two years that its taken to pen Ten Thousand Apologies with Adelle Stripe I now refer to as the great silence. Mog Yoshihara & Kelly Kiley at Rough Trade Management set up my Zoom conversations with contributors. Communication was always a problem for Fat White Family. But how will COVID-19 effect gigs? That kind of lifestyle is underrated. And sometimes thats something I can really dig into and make a use out of, like literally make a song and dance out of it, and sometimes you feel kind of homeless. It definitely planted a few seeds. Later, he was speaking with brothers Luke and Liam May, whose label Trashmouth Records had put out early releases by The Fat Whites (and their predecessor The Saudis), about his experience. I liked uppers and socialising and chasing girls around. I had decided some time ago that I was on my way to London at the soonest possible occasion to study art. [3], They released their debut album, Champagne Holocaust, in 2013, on UK label Trashmouth Records. PKM: You were at one of the Black Lives Matter protests in London a few days ago. Even Anish Kapoor makes an appearance. Am I a hoarder? So what begins as a kind of formulaic rereading ends up becoming quite shocking, exposing borderline damning bits of self-exhibition and self-laceration. It didnt sell mega-well or anything like that, but loads of really cool people liked it. It found early admiration from influential DJs like Jacob Meehan, Derek Plaslaiko and Dark Entries boss Josh Cheon, for example. It was just the most fulfilling thing. Im in some sort of musical cul-de-sac at the moment Im either listening to ambient or Bob Dylan. . B orn in Southampton to an Algerian father and a Yorkshire coalminer mother, Lias Saoudi grew up in Scotland and Northern Ireland before studying at London's Slade School of Fine Art. PKM: The Indian novelist Kamala Markandaya said that in order to write about something, in order to get it done, she had to be infuriated. What are you supposed to do? Were the classic toxic men that everybody keeps talking about. Born to an Algerian father and a British mother, he grew up in Scotland and Northern Ireland before moving to London to study at the Slade School of Fine Art. Just go down to New Malden and howl some falsetto over a beat for a few hours. The Grass Arena by John Healy https://www.theguardian.com/books/2008/aug/05/biography, 5. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. Its me, Eddie by Eddie Limonov https://literaryreview.co.uk/its-me-eddie, 2. PleaseKillMe.com is the home of Please Kill Me: the Uncensored Oral History of Punk. "It was sort of like rehab," says Saoudi. We cant have you back in the house, Lias told him at the time. Its a strange time for that to suddenly be a prospect again, like things werent bad enough. For one thing, the obligatory press quote for the track saw Saoudis pseudonym Meat Divine spinning a yarn about The purity of the connection you had with one of your clients - a Lib Dem MP - who used to make you dress like a geisha whilst peeling a never-ending mound of organic carrots in a Raddisson Hotel suite. Saoudi, however, rejects those accusations. (LogOut/ I remember having a vision that I was hanging out with my Algerian grandmother, but she was a little girl, and she was showing me around the mountains in Kabylia. Sarah Davachi at Lglise Saint-Eustache, Paris. Six things you love which should be better known. The band were supposed to do an ultra-late-night set at Baby's All Right but it ended up not happening. Lias Saoudi, lead singer with Fat White Family, performs on the Big Top stage on day one of the Parklife 2016 Festival on June 11, 2016 in. Instead, he says he was inspired by his recent viewing of David Cronenburgs M. Butterfly, in which a French diplomat falls in love with a traditional Chinese opera performer who is in fact a male spy in disguise as a woman. Hes just finished his solo album, which we sort of collaborated on. Bang to rights, The book is not always kind to Saoudis bandmates, however. Do the gig, get in the van, go to the studio, do the album there was never any time for any kind of perspective. Their unsparing lyrics are often an expose of our best and worst qualities as a species, intermingled so closely that good and bad and right and wrong become hopelessly confused. Thats not to discredit him, we needed that structure, but having been in that constrained position for so long, to just be like, Heres a beat, do what the fuck you want for ten minutes that felt a lot more akin to the way we perform live, where youre just howling whatever syllables come into your mouth. It was really nice to just let Decius breathe, says Quinn. Join us. The process of writing forced Saoudi to confront many of the conflicts and resentments he and his bandmates had avoided for years. Its basically his reading history: he picks 52 books Nietzsche, Schopenhauer, Svetlana Alexievichs The Unwomanly Face of War and goes through his personal relationship with each of them. We werent trying to package it in that way, but people picked up on that stuff without it being explained or explicit., Meanwhile, the project now known as Decius (named after the relatively obscure Roman Emperor remembered primarily for his brutality; the group employ a Roman laurel as a visual trademark), was remaining casual. The notion of somebody setting this task upon themselves and going this deep on poo I find irresistibly heroic, in a way. What do you think concerts will be like when people are allowed to gather in larger groups? As well as the unparalleled joy of keeping the publication alive, you'll receive benefits including exclusive editorial, podcasts, and specially-commissioned music by some of our favourite artists. He wrote, "In a state of frenzied arrogance around 18 months ago I took it upon myself to hurl a few digital petrol bombs at some of the countrys most beloved acts from the comfort of my hovel in Streatham. Otherwise everything you write is like just absolute drivel. But then it also hasnt helped my martyr complex. Co-written with lucidity and humour by singer Lias Saoudi and acclaimed author Adelle Stripe, Ten Thousand Apologies is that rare thing: a music book that barely features any music, a biography as literary as any novel, and a confessional that does not seek forgiveness. So when Lias came in it was somebody who didnt have any kind of history with it or established reference point, so it went to other places you wouldnt expect. The closest model Lias had was Alan Vega, that kind of weird, degraded white boy soul kind of thing, where you think youre a sex beast but youre scared of your own shadow., The unsettling, quivering voice Lias employed worked perfectly with the muscular, sleazy beat that Luke and Liam gave him, and eventually it became Decius debut single Come To Me Villa. Their second album, Songs for Our Mothers, was released in 2016 by the Without Consent label. Learn how your comment data is processed. I had moved there from the west coast of Scotland after my parents split up several years before, my mum having married an accountant from the area after throwing in the towel with my dad. Shirtless, his dark hair tousled after a brisk walk across town, he rolled cigarettes and sipped coffee whilst answering questions with a right good grace. Its incredibly painful, a lot of it, but theres an ecstasy to it, in that its pure catharsis. With thanks to Adelle Stripe. THE SHOCKING LIVE TELEVISION SUICIDE OF A NEWS ANCHOR! Musician Lias Saoudi discusses with Ivan six things which should be better known. Lias Saoudi, the band's frontman, has a reputation for shedding clothing at . "Oh man! Lias Saoudi: Exactly. Itll be a heavy day., Decius are a supergroup made up of Paranoid London and Warmduscher members with Lias Saoudi as frontman. Words by Lias Saoudi. What if it is personal to you? Lias choice of clothing in U Instead Of Thought might cross one boundary too many for some, however. Our government and your governmentits almost like nobody actually knows what theyre doing. 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The act ended up touring together, as well as working with Sean Lennon, Yoko Ono, Philip Oakey, Randy Jones and Slow Club frontwoman Rebecca Taylor, resulting in the 2017 release of their debut album, Interplanetary Class Classics. I certainly wouldnt vote for him., Saoudi performing with Fat White Family in 2019. In choosing to attack two groups at once I believed I was demonstrating a supreme . I dont understand where the line is. A fantasy that Id spend ten years toying with or trying to kill, that I finally submitted myself to fully only recently, was born in me. It would be an insult to those guys to claim that I was a junkie. Debaucherous UK band Fat White Family were in NYC over the weekend, playing Bowery Ballroom on Saturday night (10/18). I had never been a words man really but in that moment I was changed forever. The Irish News. (LogOut/ Lias Saoudi. It was that place that Id always imagined moving to London but never really found., In the days afterwards, he started to think about how he could bring that bacchanalian spirit to his own work. And sometimes thats something I can really dig into and make a use out of, like literally make a song and dance out of it, and sometimes you feel kind of homeless. I think its one of those things that to sort of successfully pull it off, you have to be able to pair off with somebody. The one thing that you can be sure of is that they will exploit it to their own nefarious ends as much as they possibly can. "On my radar: Lias Saoudi's cultural highlights". The Independent. They make me powerful. If anybody brought up anybody else like Queen we were like, nah, shithouse, Michael Jackson is where its at., That song had a certain poignancy for me. I did dabble a bit on the old Countdown, Saoudi laughs. From then on, Weve really been punching above our weight in terms of where weve played so far. He cites raucous shows at Fold in Canning Town and a New Years Eve show at the now defunct Tottenham club The Cause, as similarly important. [14] The album was described as "triumphant" and "transcendent" by Adelle Stripe in The Quietus,[15] and The Irish Times said it feels like a pop album you might slap on as the world is about to end or youve just learned Brexit has been pushed back to 2020.[16], Ten Thousand Apologies: Fat White Family and the Miracle of Failure, is a recent biography of Fat White Family co-written by Lias Saoudi and Adelle Stripe. It made me think of London, which was not a place Id ever been but youre almost mourning this place thats not even real to you. I mean, with me and my brother it waswe were just sort of skint, and pissing around, and sort of felt like rejects. WERE WE ALL BRAINWASHED BY THE CIA WITH SEX, DRUGS AND ROCK & ROLL? Mon 20th Sep 2021 14.45 BST. The site covers music, art, culture, fashion, poetry and movies from the 60s through today. So it really did get kind of monstrous as a result. Well kill it before it grows!, Decius' debut album Decius Vol I is released on May 13 via Decius Trax. Chrissy Blake hosted my interview with Peter Blake. Fat White Family's Lias Saoudi says Idles 'represent everything that is wrong with contemporary cultural politics.' Idles Are Feuding With UK Band Fat White Family About Social Issues Music But the process of writing Ten Thousand Apologies forced Saoudi, whom Stripe describes as a mix of Harold Steptoe, Oscar Wilde and Adrian Mole, to confront many of the conflicts and resentments he and his bandmates had avoided for years. Really, really good positive energy. But I thought Id choose the last album by David Berman, from Silver Jews, released in 2019. Youre crashing on couches, youre in vans, youre in planes, and with the new social distancing requirements that kind of work is going to be so different. It was a bit heavy, that. 1', Music Of The Month: The Best Albums And Tracks Of October 2022, Songs At The End Of The World: An Interview With HMLTD, tQ's Exclusive Monthly Round-Up Playlist: March 2023, Music Of The Month: The Best Albums And Tracks Of March 2023, tQ's Exclusive Monthly Round-Up Playlist: February 2023, Love Songs And Monster Songs: Jad Fair's Favourite Albums, Their New House: House Of All Interviewed, Personal Anthems: An Interview With Heinali. What are you going to do? It just made all of that other stuff feel utterly tepid. I cant stop listening to it. Plus theres Lias Saoudi (of Fat White Family) sharing his cultural highlights in On my radar. Jarvis Cocker edits the Observer New Review, ias Saoudi is the frontman of rock bands Fat White Family and the Moonlandingz. But singer Lias Saoudi and his compatriots had no such trouble. Hes never on his way to the party, hes always like, Do you know what? FWF frontman revisits his 16-year-old self for our latest Sweet 16 column. I was so terrified I was gonna get crushed, I was this little dude getting thrown around, it was horrible. Change). If youve got 50,000 followers, then youve basically got a little TV channel. By the time youve finished tinkering with them and fucking about with them you never want to hear from them ever again. I grew quite lazy. It was the very definition of first love. Their debut album, Decius Vol. After spending the six weeks of lockdown at a close friends house, Fat White Family front man Lias Saoudi is ready for a move. That hasnt been shut off yet. But then, my mums from the north of England, a working class coal mining family. I have a voice. To find out more, click here. Whoever its for, subscriptions allow us to keep producing Loud And Quiet and supporting independent new artists, labels and journalism. Its awful when you get a public rinse down; I should have at least qualified my comments last year. Its not a power that can actually be taken away from somebody. As tQ reaches the age of 14, John and Luke remember their lives at that age, the trials, tribulations, sounds and minor humiliations that have made them who they are today. We were homaging the kind of place where house music came from, gay, Black clubs in Chicago and New York, basically. The publisher, White Rabbit Books, shared the news on their social media channels, writing: "Announcing Ten Thousand Apologies , Fat White Family and the Miracle of Failure by Adelle Stripe and Lias Saoudi.". THIS IS WHATS COOL! There was a time in my life when they were precious to me. Support tQ's work by becoming a subscriber and enjoy the benefits of bonus essays, podcasts and exclusively-commissioned new music. Michael Jackson - 'Black Or White'. The Fat White Family frontman on sonically tripping to Sarah Davachi, rewatching Threads and a heroic history of poo in art. I told them I thought Sash! I was chuffed! 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