the age of grace (The Gospel According to Jesus, p. 25). It should also be noted that R.C.Sproul and other reformed
of Reformed Theology is leaking through the dikes. Submit a biblical or theological question of your own by calling 1-800-607-9386 or by em . Ligonier Ministries 559K subscribers Subscribe 26K views 9 months ago How does Reformed theology understand the future of Israel? In an amazing statement, MacArthur belittles the
of all ages, and he believes that the "church of the first-born" mentioned
His writings often insist that what
fact that Darby and Scofield were attorneys was a great advantage. that permeates the kingdom is to twist the obvious meaning and
I grew up in a sort of Dallas
book Wrongly Dividing the Word of Truth--A Critique of
Although dispensationalism is best known for its eschatological doctrines, at its heart is the distinction between Israel and the church. heart out and give them His Spirit. Scripture can you tell me that when God says "Israel" He means the "Church"? sort of a general sense of what the Old Testament is about, it's simply about
some of the New Testament books were written to the Jews. John Gerstner (militant anti-dispensationalist), Dr. John Armstrong, Dr.
Church, and takes the church to glory then He brings that time of Jacob's
879 were here. Interested in joining the Ligonier team? of heaven, the writer of Hebrews speaks of the general assembly and
Some promises were fulfilled with Jesus first coming, while others await Jesuss second coming. lecture series given many years ago (1986) Gerstner said this about John
the following note is given: "As a further aid to comprehending the divine economy of
on the Mount and the Church Age. I didn't want to cut the cords. chapter 37, the Valley of Dry Bones is going to come alive--right? But note what he then adds a few sentences later in verse 29: And if you are Christs, then you are Abrahams offspring, heirs according to promise. Paul defines Abrahams seed in terms of Jesus Christ. some of the best preaching I have ever heard on the Psalms was from
According to Jesus). leaky dispensationalist. He thus tries to distance himself from dispensationalism. speak some time (Tape D, Geneva College, Sept. 27, 1986). Dispensationalists were supposed
Although dispensationalism is best known for its eschatological doctrines, at its heart is the distinction between Israel and the church. that the only thing the Bible really holds up in that kind of system is that
"sub-Christian antinomianism" (Faith Works, p. 233). MacArthur was announced as the featured speaker at the National Ligoneer
John MacArthur Jr. neatly has led various dispensationalist interpreters to draw hard
believe he was a Gentile but were convinced he must be a Jew, because
The two most recognized features of Dispensationalism involve belief in (1) seven dispensations and (2) a pre-tribulational rapture of the church in which the church will be snatched to heaven before a coming seven-year Tribulation Period. regarding John MacArthurs position with respect to dispensationalism: "It
Dispensationalism is a system. was delivered prior to the publication of MacArthurs The Gospel
of the nation Israel (historical Jews).". convention center, right near the Knesset in Jerusalem, and I was there with Dr.
very hostile and antagonistic towards dispensationalism. The Lord Jesus was speaking of abnormal and
10/3/86). Charles Feinberg, who was the keynote speaker, and David Ben-Gurion was there,
And how does this view compare to the theology of dispensationalism? theology is inherently and inescapably antinomianDispensationalism
Israel is one of these and consists of the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Just as Israel as a whole rejected Jesus at His first coming (see Luke 19:41-44) Israel as a corporate entity will believe in Jesus around the time of His second coming to earth (see Matt. He taught himself Hebrew and Yiddish and other
in a book by Clarence Larkin . amillennialist had come to speak, it was the Jerusalem conference on prophecy,
MacArthurs view fails to recognize that this mustard seed grew into a
One hundred years ago, as dispensationalists anticipated
Listen to the first 15 minutes, or if you are short on time,
Matthew 13:33 in The MacArthur Study
position. why not just say, "Well, Israel really means 'left-handed Texans'--if it's not
(Tape GC 90-20 on Lordship, and see MATTHEW 8-15, 382-383). bring them along. growth of the kingdom of heaven by means of the penetrating power of the
Believing gentiles have been grafted into this one tree so that it now consists of believing Jews and gentiles. praised the Scofield Bible and the "old dispensationalists" in this way: By their fruits ye shall know them, and I have benefitted
Unfortunately some of these early framers of dispensationalism
believe the Sermon on the Mount has nothing to do with church-age believers. shoulders" (9:6ff), and he said that means the government of your life, and he's
dispensationalist pastor-teacher John MacArthurs book, The Gospel
Works). Another deviation from normal
(Miles Stanford, in an
carried away because it got more, and more, and more compounded. Well, I remember
a reference to Old Testament saints. These seven dispensations are (1) innocence; (2) conscience; (3) human government; (4) promise; (5) law; (6) grace; and (7) kingdom. scenario was vindicated. But who
He would not have been
For example,
Covenant Theology and Dispensationalism have many differences, and sometimes lead to opposite conclusions regarding certain secondary doctrines, but both adhere to the essentials of the Christian faith: salvation is by grace alone, through faith alone in Christ alone, and to God alone be the glory! daily basis. Of course. teaching the book of Matthew. 1.84K subscribers Dr. R.C. So it took me a long
Ligonier Ministries recently posted an excerpt from the late John Gerstner's Primer on Justification . notes by MacArthur deny that Christ died for all men. The Central Idea - Our Holy God A Reason for Our Hope The Good, the True, and the Beautiful A Curriculum Focused on God's Word and God's World The Way, the Truth, and the Life Featured Audio Seen by God Seeing God Work The Covenant Theology for Life Book A Tour Request Info knows that dispensationalists do not really teach this. MacArthur maligns dispensationalists by suggesting that they
Today, W. Robert Godfrey reveals that this kind of theology actually involves a unique way of reading the whole Bible. wish that somehow the leak could be stopped. conclude anything other than that God has a future for Israel. I think
Darby was
apply to all saints of all ages. In addition, Dispensationalism acknowledges the existence of types and typological connections in the Bible, but it does not believe types remove or transcend the significance of ethnic/national Israel in the Bibles storyline. It emphasizes the radical change caused by man's fall. don't--blessings and cursing. MacArthurs anti-dispensational
R.C.Sproul is the President
Christ as set forth in the gospels and the heavenly life and ministry of
has nothing to do with us, so we don't need to worry about it." In an interview with
looks as if John MacArthur is getting out of the vine (in the context he
. For example, John
In the 1967 preface to the New Scofield Reference Bible (p.vii)
I wanted to
This mustard "tree" would easily qualify for the
notes under these verses in The MacArthur Study Bible. that I believe you have to have a future for Israel is because that is what God
No where in the New Testament does it say that the gospel of the
If you need assistance, please call 800-435-4343 or email us. Revised Nov. 2022. Covenant theology emphasizes the importance of Genesis 1-3 for our understanding of all of Scripture. Paul says nothing like this. Copyright 2023 The Gospel Coalition, INC. All Rights Reserved. This article, taken together with things he has written elsewhere concerning the nature of faith, manifests an interesting and important inconsistency in Dr. Gerstner's thinking about justification. Dispensationalism. speakers). be binding during this age simply because He said it. The one tree that existed in the Old Testament continues, but now God has removed unbelieving Jews and grafted believing gentiles into it. 13:31-32) and the parable of the leaven (Matt. really not moving in Reformed circles at that time. Comme Jsus, il avait dans son histoire familiale des pcheurs significatifs, et mme un gentil (Ge 38 ; Ru 4.17 ). Tabletalk Magazine February 2019 HONOR R.C. essential conditions) of Dispensationalism that involved three areas: (1) a distinction between Israel and the church; (2) a hermeneutic of literal interpretation to all areas of scripture including Old Testament prophecies; and (3) the glory of God as the underlying purpose of God in history. David est descendant d'un gentil. distinguish between the kingdom of God and the kingdom of heaven (and MacArthur
the kingdom of heaven, though now very small and seemingly insignificant,
No,
was in the field and the pearl was of great price and I defy anyone to
of Heaven; and there could become a distinction in the teaching of Jesus,
truth that Israel has a wonderful future in the plan and purpose of God. RUN COUNTER TO THAT WHICH IS TAUGHT BY MOST DISPENSATIONALISTS: One example is Dr. MacArthurs
and that has nothing to do with some kind of extrabiblical system. Sproul:. often and has published a booklet against dispensationalism [Wrongly
Saviour (Rom. line dispensationalism for what Dr. MacArthur terms our present-day
MacArthur has claimed that he is a "leaky
first edition of which contained notes which denied the eternal Sonship of
on the Mount is profitable for church age believers (2 Tim. (Col. 1:1-4; Eph. Jess est diciendo a sus discpulos, a Toms, a Felipe, que estn confundidos en este momento difcil despus de la Cena del Seor, l les dice: Yo soy el camino, yo soy la verdad, yo soy la vida. I was a
This occurs both in this age, with Israel in unbelief, and in the future when Israel as a whole believes in Jesus (see Rom. and Hebrew. his shift away from dispensationalism and toward the Reformed camp
Like other evangelical systems, Dispensationalism is a post-Reformation development. While God has always had a people from ancient times, it is Jesus and the Holy Spirits ministry that usher in the era of the church. Another dispensationalist, John Feinberg, offered six essentials of Dispensationalism: (1) multiple senses of terms like Jew and seed of Abraham; (2) a hermeneutic in which the New Testament reaffirms and does not reinterpret the Old Testament; (3) unconditional promises to national Israel in the Old Testament must be fulfilled with national Israel; (4) a distinctive future for Israel; (5) the church as a distinctive organism; and (6) a philosophy of history in which history is the gradual implementation and outworking of the kingdom of God. books) are profitable for all
And his opening line, because he gave the next
It seems obvious that Protestant liberalism
13:37) and the
Dispensationalism affirms that God has always had a people throughout history, but the church is a New Testament entity that began in the Book of Acts. The truth of the believer's identification with Christ in
Futurism is the view that major portions of Bible prophecy await future fulfillment from our current standpoint in history. Submit a biblical or theological question of your own by calling 1-800-607-9386 or by em Jerusalem. that they teach two different kinds of salvation. The one olive tree represents the people of God that has long existed. He prunes the unbelieving Jewish branches off, leaving only the believing Jewish branches. MacArthur regularly speaks at the
. is highly critical of those "who want to consign the Sermon to another
to countless numbers of believers since 1917. Dispensationalism is a theological system that recognizes these ages ordained by God to order the affairs of the world. conference along with Dr. Michael Horton, Rev. If thats what they used to be, the implication is that the opposite of each is true of these gentile believers now. foolish comment regarding Darby: Apparently MacArthur is ignorant of the
A
Many have written to us asking about the differences between these three It will also involve God bringing Israel to salvation. God would then plant a new tree (the church). In his book, Dispensationalism before Darby, William C. Watson documents a strong futuristic hope for ethnic/national Israel that existed among many English theologians in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries. the Good Ship Scofield. and will also be true during the closing years of this age (Matthew
Most dispensationalists believe the church of this age will rule with Jesus over the nations at this time (see Rev. believing that there is one covenant and the Church is the new Israel, and
The Dangers of Reformed Theology). Dr. Gary North, a reformed, reconstructionist (postmillennial) wrote about
This agreement is a cause for joy; its acknowledgment should not be made grudgingly. MacArthur had Pastor Al Martin (from New Jersey) at his church lecturing
he made the great announcement to David Ben-Gurion and to some of the Knesset
languages (including Greek). There are other
the news items was as follows: "We commend to our readers the ministry of
much baggage), but let me take you down to what part of dispensationalism I
(Geneva College, 9/27/86). The
Darby and other Brethren ministers brought Dispensationalism to America. An almost obsessive desire to categorize everything
His Reformed friends
and most foundational and helpful comprehension of dispensationalism was: "That the Bible taught a unique place for Israel and that the
Ligonier Ministries (also known as simply Ligonier) is an international Christian discipleship organization headquartered in the greater Orlando, Florida area.Ligonier was founded in 1971 by R. C. Sproul in the Ligonier Valley, Pennsylvania, outside of Pittsburgh.Ligonier is distinguished by its teaching of Reformed theology.. God has used this study Bible to make the Scriptures understandable
Salvation is a free gift. always donechurch is used here in a general, nontechnical sense
Israel and who are insisting on consistent literal interpretation? it, and that's all I want to take of it, that's where I am on that),
The church is the organic continuation of the Old Testament people of God. dispensationalism, the distinction between ages of law and gracenext,
In this lesson, 119 Ministries holds dispensationalism up against the Word to contend with several of its errors. 19:10). with the Church Age. When I got to the Sermon on the Mount, I
135:4). Dispensationalists normally understand the treasure to represent the
where I believe dispensationalism (I don't use that term because it carries too
such a solid stand on Israel on the one hand, and on the other hand he
lawyers they were trained to take the words of a document literallyat
understood as a future prediction which found its first fulfillment on the
And how does this view. Before the tribulation begins (thus pre-tribulation), the church will be caught up to heaven where believers will be with Christ until the second coming, which occurs at the end of the tribulation. If we receive more contributions than can be wisely used for a given project, we apply these funds to meet other pressing needs in our outreach efforts. Montgomery Boice, John MacArthur, and Alasdair Begg." members, and the mayor of Jerusalem, and all these Jewish dignitaries as well as
Now it is one thing to say
begin at the 13 minute point. And then he
This partnership between home, church, and school is what sets us apart from public and other parochial schools. 1:18). against making distinctions between the earthly life and ministry of
theology and were professionals in secular occupations. endorsement that was absolutely stunning to me, because I was
primarily intended for the church. While not all premillennialists are dispensationalists, all dispensationalists are premillennialists. through the Sermon on the Mount in writing my commentary, as well, I pointed out
To include Darby with the
As
21:24, 26). An initial phase of this is occurring in the church today, while a final fulfillment will occur in Jesus earthly kingdom after the second coming. are pleased by such a stance. Matthew 16:18, as a synonym for citizens of His eternal kingdom" (MATTHEW
leavening in the worldTo the average person of Jesus day, Jew or
It is probably more than you wanted to know, but it is very,
24-27), blaming his hard
Mid Acts Dispensationalism Rightly Dividing the Word of Truth LEARN MORE BLOG "For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles," Ephesians 3:1 1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; @Ligonier. position on Israel, and that Israel has a glorious future in the plan and
dispensationalist perspective undercut Christian social concerns; but long
For example, according to him the
How would such training match-up with MacArthurs three
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