Also, there are a lot of other brakes that actually did the exact same percentage reduction as another brake or multiple other brakes and that combo chart still ranks them (e.g. cuz the Good Iron was in this test and I got one or two Smith flash hiders for that one. So after all that Can you tell us followers which of these if any are suppressor ready? So far all of the brakes with blast shields pretty much recoiled just like a bare muzzle or a linear compensator with the shield installed. The Lantac would reduce recoil better if 1) the baffles were larger 2) the bore through the baffles were smaller (it would strip off and catch more gas rather than letting it blow through the bore) 3) the baffles angled rearwards a bit. Failure to SCREW THE SUPPRESSOR ON THE BRAKE before locking the SR collar WILL CAUSE YOUR SUPPRESSOR TO . Incredible performance in a small, lightweight package. MSRP:$100. It puts the Amazon one basically dead center in the pack on performance. Hey Jeremy thanks for doing this, and thank you for bringing my attention to the Precision Armaments M4-27. Theres now a version 2.0 of the Mini Comp, but I still own and use this one. Thank you. Ive purchased air pressure sensors designed to log blast waves so we can compare the amount of concussion each muzzle device generates, and these will be used in test four. They make some funky looking brakes, Yes. This is the new "Compact Brake" for Thunder Beasts flagship long-range precision rifle suppressors. So, you lean backwards from the recoil, which makes the muzzle go up. Enough to ballpark where a brake from the first test would have placed in this test. Material: 8620 steel If not placing it as both #20 and #25, what would I do? It is one of the most effective single-chamber brakes Ive tested on the recoil sled. Yes, but appearance is very meaningful to a lot of muzzle device buyers, and the JP piece is absolutely gorgeous in machining and finish, whereas the Miculek is quick and dirty. We out it on a rifle that is used in 3gun. Diameter(at largest point): 0.975 MSRP:$57.99. Thunder Beast: 30CB Muzzle Brake, 3/4x28 - .30 cal. Sorry, I tried to explain in the text: a performance (percentage reduction in recoil) per dollar graph So thats what it is. We let a couple of other guys try it on their SPR style rifles. Search. gmail, Jeremy, its time for Round #3 now. I think what youre looking for is in the performance per dollar graph, where theyre ranked by their performance per dollar of cost. Quick view. It doesnt inherently leap upwards unless the support behind it makes it do so. Most flash hiding needs can be solved with ammo. Whether theres enough room to open up the threads from 1/228 to 5/824 is another question but not always necessary. You may pin and weld this device to a 10.5 barrel to make your barrel a legal rifle length barrel or mount it without welding onto a 16 or longer barrel. Like 16 or 18 of them. Better than some of the less expensive SI products and probably nicer than Id expect at this price point. For many brakes and comps, felt recoil reduction is only one goal, with the other primary design intention being the reduction of muzzle movement in any other direction. Finish:melonite It would be interesting to see which one performs the best on a .300 Blackout. A 50% reduction and $100 would be a factor of 0.5. Length:2.225 Based on your VERY comprehensive write up, I could go back and enter all the info manually and figure this ratio myself, but Im lazy!! but I have to remove my brake all the time and run my bird cage for normal carry, because if I have to shoot a rattlesnake or shoot a predator without muffs, my ears will ring for hours! Material: 416 stainless steel I just saw that the smith one was in there. Material: stainless steel Triangle Shooting Sports Benny Hill Rolling Thunder Compensator: The Rolling Thunder has been a staple on the end of competition rifles (3-Gun, long range, etc) for a long time. Contact Neal Brace Material: 316 stainless steel Thunder Beast's new CB brake reduces up to 40% more recoil than the older BA. For the record, I measured in 1/16-inch increments and chose not to round when converting that to decimal measurements later. was really hoping to see the Rainier RAC and the Diamondhead T-BRAKE this go round if possible could you test those 2 and see how they compete. The suppressor itself, however, has recoil reduction and flash reduction benefits. Thats a decent amount of $$$ when were talking about .308. Please consider supporting this sort of testing via my Patreon page. Id love to see the Griffin M4SD added. Material: steel If you have any questions or concerns related to your automobiles muffler, then contact Muffler Technician in Rowland Heights, California at (626) 964-8400. Mitigate muzzle jump and recoil with these devices from . Not inexpensive, but still less expensive than many of the similar brakes it outperforms. Length:2.61 Recoil Eliminator was in the first muzzle device shootout. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. Finish:Ionbond CrCN SCAR 17 Muzzle Device Compatibility List. FSC556 was in the first test and the flash hiding test. Please feel free to Photoshop it up and send me a fixed version. How much does the bcg affect recoil? Victor's Quality Motors, family owned and operated by Victor' and Sons, Mike and Rocky. Lets say it reduces it by 50%. Put an AR with a bare muzzle against a solid object like a wall or a tree or whatever, and the muzzle doesnt move. This applies to both the direct thread attach models (eg 30P-1) and the brake-attach models (eg 30BA). However, this time around there are [almost] noflash hiders, linear compensators, or other devices not actually designed to reduce recoil. Muzzle brakes: These devices reduce the felt recoil of each shot. The asking price should be adjusted to reflect this and, indeed, Troys options are on the affordable end of the spectrum with many linear comps coming in over 2x the price. This device is designed and intended to reduce felt recoil and muzzle climb. But that being said, a 24 barrel will have less gas exiting it than a 16 barrel which complicates this measurement. With 50,000+ likes on Facebook and some very interesting deals coming off in the USA, its clear Im the market leader. Length:2.44 I been looking for brakes/compensators for my DD MK-12 . Finish:black (also available in satin stainless) Material: 17-4ph heat treated stainless steel The machining is gorgeous. I expected the recoil distances as measured in inches to be totally different from the first test to this one different sled weight, different ambient temperature, slightly different table angle, etc but I had very much hoped that therecoil reductions measured as a percentage would be pretty much the same. The Thunder Beast 338 BA muzzle brake allows the quick and secure attachment of both the 338 Ultra and 338 BA silencers to the host rifle. EXTRA SR BRAKE. But I really cant be sure so didnt state it except in one case w/ the 2A Armament one since they specifically mentioned it works for that. Hybrid devices are also available, which combine the practical effects of two or more of these devices into a single unit. Im putting together a 6.8, most of the barrels Im looking at take the 5/8x24 devices, and Id like to get a good bang for the buck break. Recoil reduction really wouldnt be worth checking in this case, but sound, concussion, ease of install would be valid comparisons. AboutPressCopyrightContact. The linear comps do zero for recoil reduction (some actually make it worse) and most of them have plenty of flash and sometimes massive fireballs, so neither of these tests really make sense. It looks like theyre calling the standard brake the heartbreak, and what you have listed as the heartbreak (in your tests) theyre calling the persuader. Hawkins Precision TANK ST Self Timing Muzzle Brake. Material: hardened 4140 steel I would also like to see the APA Gen II Little Bastard. Each port has a round hole in the middle that diverges outwards into the Y shapes visible on the outside. Material: HTSR 416 stainless steel Material: 4140 bar stock steel Awesome videos thanks for the work! Great job, Jeremy, I could have never imagined an actual, effective method to test this. MSRP:$64.95. Another newbie: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/05/26/griffin-armament-1-ounce-minimalist-brake/, Any plans on doing a similar study on whats currently available for .30 cal guns? the center of the butt stock. The new AFAB thats Advanced Flash Arresting Brake takes the old design to a slightly more extreme level, with deeper grooves and a baffle pattern inside the bore. Lancers Nitrous comp is a 3-port brake with an enclosed blast chamber just after the threads. Finish:black nitride or bead blasted stainless steel Instead of concussion, its more like a gust of wind after every shot. Without that, its too subjective. I am wondering if they will ever be tested to see where they come into play. $101.05 $160.00. Same with most neighbors on the range. Q. Cherry Bomb Muzzle Brake $100.00. Diameter(at largest point): 0.8 Just going to run the same AmEag M193, which is pretty flashy stuff, and leave it up to the flash hiders to sort it all out :). Similar in dimensions, appearance, chamber and baffle design, and on my recoil sled rig theyre identical in recoil reduction performance. Ill borrow it again for recoil test #3, along with a few other high-end brakes/comps that somebody has and is willing to loan. Weight:3 oz Finish:melonite Weve got a brake that we would be interested in seeing where it falls on your scale. . Weight:2.98 oz I feel like it pushes the gun down a bit, even when shooting from a bench rest or bipod. Percentage reduction divided by dollars. I thought you said December? Just to be clear and entirely without taking sides one way or the other the comment Paul just responded to is from an unknown user, not from TTAG despite the username inputted. Like RISEs trigger, the comp is fairly modern looking and the machining and finish are extremely nice. Another to consider is the V7 Weapon Systems Furion http://www.v7weaponsystems.com/collections/frontpage/products/furion, Wow, a lot of their stuff is dead sexy. The Lantac Raven .22lr is a world beater, its the most accurate .22lr semi-auto available, period; there are reports that it also groups 1/2 MOA at 100 yards with whatever ammo is used. $125.00) (5 reviews) Diameter(at largest point): 0.866 Thanks for the exhaustive effort. Most were donated by the manufacturers, a couple have been borrowed, a handful have been purchased new, a couple I was able to find and purchase used. I must tell you that just for fun we installed this brake on a rifle that is used for bench rest. Machining shows a couple of nicks and slightly rough edges. Yes, brakes that push down on the muzzle gain a slight advantage by increasing friction between the sled and the table. You ever get an SJC Titan to test? I am not an engineer or a doctor. I thought it might be the one to unseat the champ. There are three main types of muzzle devices for your weapon: flash suppressors/flash hiders, muzzle brakes, and compensators. TTAG helped with the budget to buy ones that needed to be bought, but these things aint cheap so a decent budget doesnt actually go all that far haha. Up or, in some cases, pushed down with decent force. The CB break is not only smaller than the previous BA muzzle break, it also preforms better. Again though, recoil reduction is only one of many variables worth considering and how theyre each weighted is a matter of personal opinion and/or intended use when choosing which muzzle device will adorn ones rifle. The 'Smuzzle' is a hybrid suppressor/muzzle brake that reduces recoil, sound and flash for machine guns. Most of DoubleStars muzzle devices appear parkerized, but not this one. I ended up choosing the pws 556. Finish is an even, matte black. Weight:3.875 oz from all of this muzzle brake editing haha. But anyway, straight-back force along the bore line with more mass under the bore line will cause the thing to spin/cartwheel backwards into space. Compatible with CB and Ultra series suppressors. Brake vs FH is pretty subjective, its going to depend on the person and the rifle and the purpose of the rifle, but brakes certainly arent useless. A lot of these are designed to be integrated with the suppressor but it would be nice to see these in the review as well to see how they compare independently. All shims should be the same but we put that in there . Weight:2.6 oz Weight:3.51 oz Gain incredible confidence in the field with every trigger pull when you outfit your rifle with the VG6 Stainless Steel Muzzle Brake. When used alone, the new "CB" brake is approximately 30-40% more effective at recoil reduction than the old 30BA brake. Finish:black nitride Ranking of importance of performance for 556 is 1. The magazine was in it just to lock the bolt back when I racked the charging handle and then to act as a sled so I could toss the next round into the ejection port, hit the bolt release, and be ready to go again. Patriot Ordnance Factory (POF) Muzzle Brake (P415): As mentioned above, POFs P415 and Lantacs Dragon are fairly similar. Our business is predicated upon the core values of integrity, trust and respect. The greater this offset the greater the muzzle rise (that needs compensation). LOL!! Finish:Ionbond CrCN I had very high hopes for this brake, as the first port is quite large and that first baffle is angled rearwards a bit like the M4-72s baffles. Machining is above average with only a few visible tool paths here and there. Aiming those first two ports on the top forwards would actually increase recoil slightly compared to aiming them straight up (or back), but this may be done to mix up the gasses coming out of the front ports, thereby preventing or reducing flash. In a sea of muzzle devices with recessed crowns, I like the domed one on the BULLSEYE if for no other reason than its unique. Material: steel Diameter(at largest point): 0.86 Many of them work as mounts for suppressors and act as sacrificial blast baffles but, no, whether its a flash hider or a brake it really wont have any effect at all on recoil or flash hiding once the suppressor goes on. Its also really expensive. We have taken the AR15 weapons system to a new level. Where is all the info on the other muzzle devices that the ferfrans CRD fits on? subjective/personal priorities, etc etc. ALG Sidewinder If you have a reliable contact for them let me know, as Id happily include one or two in the next test if theyll donate or loan them. The huge following it has is again an advertising success driven by the like button on Facebook. SureFires stuff was in the original muzzle device shootout. It comes with a lock nut to make timing it particularly simple, and at $58 MSRP its one of the lower-priced options in this roundup. Muzzle rise. MSRP:$140. The Performance per dollar chart needs to be fixed. The JP Recoil Eliminator is available for both .223 and .308. If the Standard one scored in at 66%, then the oversized one may actually be worthy of the #1 spot or at least beat out the JP Recoil Eliminator at #2 (I dont like your scheme of showing the M4-72 as both #1 and #2. You could use that to rank them by performance per ounce of weight, or do whatever else might make sense. Yeah, you could invent a hundred others. I have a few of those for the upcoming test #3. As fun as blast, fire, and concussion may be and they are! The machining and the finish are clean and the steel has a quality feel. Cool little brake. If it wasnt, the JuggerBrake wouldnt have moved at all hahaha, Uh Ohnew kid on the block with some hefty claims: Dr. Chet, thanks for the input on your compensators. It won again! Whether thats up, down, right, left, or back, it keeps the muzzle practically fixed in space. Anyone have stats on how the stag 3G compensator works on recoil in comparison to these? Im assuming inches per dollar, but it needs to be clearly stated. The slow-mo footage for each device in the following video does show some noticeable differences in up/down muzzle movement as well as in flash, but this test was specifically designed only for measuring recoil rearward energy. Jeremy strives to collect objective data whenever possible, and looks to write accurate reviews that reflect the true user experience. Quick view Out of Stock. It would be great if you guys could do an additional test on recoil buffer systems (enidine, etcetera). Finish:machined stainless or black (+$10) Is the Specwar Trifecta Brake the same as the Saker Trifecta brake with a different mounting option? Nor will it try to rotate or want to rotate. Two ports inside the blast chamber direct gas upwards to combat muzzle rise. Thats why tests such as these are good to see. The J-Comp is a 2-chamber design (you have it highlighted in pink in the above table, indicating it is a 3 (or more) chamber design. But mostly I wouldnt shoot the gun unless it was truly necessary, or Id carry ear pro with me. Its kind of cool how it works, and the end result is that you use one washer of the correct thickness to time any muzzle device properly. However, I also would like to see the APA gen 2 Bastard line (micro bastard for 5.56, and little bastard for .30) included in round #3 of testing. b. Field test of Thunder Technologies Muzzle Brake/Flash Suppressor on a Colt Full Auto M4. This gives 4 possible configurations (short . CORPORATE OFFICE & PLANT. Brake Threads: 1/2-28, 5/8-24, 9/16-24, 3/4-24, 3/4-28, M18x1.0, M18x1.5, M15x1.0 (RH) . R&D MRAD Ball-dimpled, circular ports is arguably a more subtle design than employing large blast chambers, but the recoil reduction isnt as effective without those baffles. 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